“Madeleine died in the apartment”
‘CM’ [Correio da Manhã] today starts the exclusive publication of excerpts from the book by Gonçalo Amaral, who believes that Madeleine McCann died inside the apartment at Praia da Luz. The episode of the holidays in 2005, in Mallorca – which raises suspicions about a friend of the couple – and the DNA results are the first parts.
“Madeleine Beth McCann, aged two and a half, and her twin siblings, at that time only a few months old, go away on holidays in the company of the parents, on the island of Mallorca. Three other couples of doctors and their children go along with them. […] S. G. had attended the university in Dundee, between 1987 and 1992, where he met the future mother of Madeleine. K. G. only met Gerry McCann on his wedding with Kate Healy, around 1998, in Liverpool. After that event, the couple S.G. and K.G. become intimate friends with Madeleine’s parents, meeting often, spending weekends together, keeping in touch over the phone.
On the third or fourth night in Mallorca, after dinner, eating and drinking, while sitting around a table on the patio outside the house, K.G. watches a scene that makes her fear for her daughter’s well being, and that of the other children. She was sitting between Gerry McCann and David Payne, when she heard the latter ask whether she, maybe referring to Madeleine, would do ‘this’, then starting to suck on one of his fingers, which he pushed in and out of his mouth, insinuating a phallic object, while at the same time, with the fingers of his other hand, he traced circles around his nipple, in a provocative and sexual manner. At the moment when K.G. looked at Gerry McCann and David Payne with stupefaction, a nervous silence took place. Then everyone continued to chat as if nothing had happened. This episode left K.G. with serious doubts about David Payne’s relationship with children. On another occasion, K.G. would once again see David Payne making the same gestures, this time while speaking about his own daughter. During that holiday period, it was the fathers who usually bathed the children, but from that moment on, K.G. never allowed David Payne to come close to her daughter. After those holidays in Mallorca, K.G. only met David and Fiona Payne on one occasion, and has not spoken to them since.
[…] What is written above was reported to the English police on the 16th of May 2007, only thirteen days after the disappearance of Madeleine, by the couple S. G. and K. G. It was information that was important and pertinent for the investigation. Yet, nothing was transmitted to the Portuguese police.
[…] I think that it was only after I left the investigation, maybe in late October 2007, that K.G.’s deposition was sent to the Portuguese police. It is legitimate to ask: for what reason did the English police, apparently, conceal that testimony for six months? When did they find out that David Payne, who had organized the trip to Mallorca, and who had been signaled with anomalous behaviour towards children, was the same who organized the trip to Portugal, that he was part of the holiday group in the village of Luz where Madeleine had been integrated, that he was the first family friend who could be seen at Kate McCann’s side after the child’s disappearance (as seen further ahead) and that on the date of the deposition he was still in Portugal, and could be confronted with these statements?
[…] In early September, a few days before the McCann couple was constituted as arguidos, Superintendent Stuart Prior travels to Portimão. He brings a first preliminary report [from the forensics lab in Birmingham], and comes to discuss the state of the investigation with us. During a meeting in our office, with the Portuguese and the English investigation teams, Stuart shows his disappointment with the results of the tests. This is where the saga of the FSS reports starts. We read the report and we do not agree with Stuart’s disappointment. The blood residues that were collected from the floor, behind the sofa in apartment 5A, as well as the blood residues that were recovered from the boot of the car that was used by the McCanns, are the issue. We talk about blood residues because the CSI dog is trained to detect only that bodily fluid. The reports that were used to based the decision on, which were written by experts Mark Harrison and Martin Grime, are clear: the CSI dog was used to locate human blood. The Low Copy Number, the technique that is used to determine the DNA from those samples, does not determine from which bodily fluid the DNA comes from. In the first case, it can be read that an incomplete DNA result was obtained, because the sample contained little information, presenting low level DNA indications that come from more than one person. But all the DNA components that are confirmed, match the corresponding components from Madeleine’s DNA profile!
Concerning the second case, after an explanation about the DNA components of Madeleine’s profile, and concluding that it is represented by 19 alleles, it is concluded that 15 are present in the tested sample. This means that 4 alleles are missing to obtain a 100% conclusive match. According to the experts from that lab, those 15 were not enough to conclude, with a high degree of certainty, that we were looking at Madeleine’s DNA profile, even more so because the Low Copy Number found 37 components in the sample. Those 37 components were apparently there because at least three individuals had contributed to that result. Although 15 components from Madeleine’s DNA profile had been found, the result was considered to be complex.
But this first preliminary report went further. In it, the scientist had the unusual care of explaining that in many of the profiles of the lab experts, elements from Madeleine’s DNA profile are present. This means that a good part of the DNA profile of any person can be built by three donors. It is understandable. Two questions were immediately raised. The first one: what use was a DNA profile, in terms of criminal evidence, if it can be the combination of three or more donors.
The other question was simple: why did the DNA profile from those three donors contribute for 15 components of Madeleine’s DNA profile and not that of anyone else, like for example, the scientist who performed the test? But the surprises from the preliminary reports would go even further. […]“
May 6th, 2011 at 5:00 pm
i think there is some kind of hidden evidence here and arround the dissapearance of maddie
May 14th, 2011 at 8:24 pm
There is something we’re not being told here!
May 17th, 2011 at 10:52 am
I also agree something is going on with this case and I dont think the parents are telling the truth about that night…
I “dont think they are good parents at all who leaves their kids alone at night – you just dont leave your kids at that age alone night or day you dont even leave them in a car alone. They have money and have no excuse to not getting a baby sitter. My son is 12 and we still get him a baby sitter…
They will never tell us the truth
Site Admin: They didn’t leave the children in the way they described. That was a cover story for what really happened. But, as you say, it is wrong to leave children unattended.
May 25th, 2011 at 1:00 pm
i think kate is 100% gulty
June 6th, 2011 at 2:12 pm
since reading all these pieces of information, i am starting to have suspicions myself. i always thought that maddie had been abducted, but now i am no so sure.
June 13th, 2011 at 3:27 am
Surely this is grasping at straws?
The line of argument suggests an elaborate cover up – an enterprise that will forever be going off the rails because of the vararies of human nature – some will always spill the beans.
I think Kate and Gerry are innocent of the main charge of colluding in abduction – it is simply too complicated to resist the intense pressure the police would put on them. As always there are dreamers (well motivated I acknowledge) but the truth is that Madeleine went missing and all efforts should be directed towards finding her.
June 13th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
Those people are disgusting. How could a couple so obsessed with babies that they had IVF be such awful parents. I wouldn’t trust them with my dog!
June 14th, 2011 at 6:49 pm
How can u all say that? That poor family r going through hell everyday of their lives n u sit here n judge n say she guilty…of wat?! Lovin n fitin 2 find her child! U make me sick….the police have cleared them£ of any wrong doin! Ur pathetic people I hope u never go through what their whole family is! If kate n gerry had done something why would they still continur 2 release a book and websites appealing for our help?! Ur sick!!!!!
Site Admin: No police force have ever cleared the McCanns. They have never appeared in a court of law so how can they be “cleared?” Do you know the family personally? How do you know they are going through hell everyday?
July 10th, 2011 at 2:57 am
I have read the book written by kate and i dont think at all they are guilty. i think until any of us know the truth what really happened none of us can judge. Losing a child and not knowing where they are would send me over the edge. They were only across a path and pool away eatting dinner outside and kept going back to check on the kids. Its horrible and i hope we all learn from the happenings (if there was happenings). But until found giulty we can only assume they are the victims of something terrible that happened. Humans are so quick to judge.
Site Admin: You say you read Kate’s book and don’t think they are guilty. Then you say that until we know the truth then we can’t judge. Ok…well how do YOU know that what Kate wrote was truthful? How do you know that what they told us back in May 2007 was truthful? How do YOU know that they were only across from the pool eating dinner? We have to judge or else the world would be riddled with criminals doing whatever they wanted. People would get away with murder if we didn’t judge. If we believed everything the criminals said then there would be no point in having police or lawyers.
July 23rd, 2011 at 10:29 pm
I think you, Site Admin, have better things to do with your time than write hurtful things about the McCann family. You have a very one sided view of the situation and the fact is, you weren’t there, you don’t know the McCanns and you don’t know what happened to Madeleine. The best thing anyone and everyone can do right now is to focus on a young child who is possibly missing and endangered. Why are you hindering this investigation by planting seeds of possible untruth in people’s minds when a young girl could very well be missing. This comment is strictly neutral in the event of whether or not Madeleine McCann was taken or murdered although my personal belief is that the McCann family had nothing to do with it. You should do better things with your time than suggest that this child is dead when she very well may be alive.
If she is found alive, I hope you take back every hurtful, cruel word you have ever written on this site, and write an apology letter to Kate, Gerry and Madeleine McCann.
Site Admin: There is only one view of the situation and the inescapable fact is that Madeleine died in Portugal in 2007. Get over it. The facts are there for all to see. Casey Anthony said that her daughter died while in her care and yet she got rid of the body. After a trial she was found not guilty despite the fact that she hid the body and didn’t inform the authorities.
July 28th, 2011 at 6:26 pm
This doesn’t make any sense.
First of all, if those three couples knew each other, you would think KG would have an inkling prior to this. Secondly, who would make those kinds of guestures about a child in public. IF he ( Payne) were a pedophile, I highly doubt he would not be speaking about it around parents of children ( KG) . Third, and most relevant, the woman, KG, hears this and only gives them a ‘stupified’ look and then there is an awkward silence and the conversation continues on to something else? Who would believe something like that? If a mother heard someone speaking of sexual acts being performed by/on a child, no one would merely give a stupified look and then sit idly by as the conversation changed. Nevermind remain on vacation with these people. To suggest as much is ridiculous. This “evidence” probably wasn’t released because if it does actually exist, it’s ludicrous and everyone knows it.
July 29th, 2011 at 3:18 am
I have to admit – if my child was kidnapped and somebody showed me a photo 5 years later – I would not outright deny that it is him…I would make it him! They have had a sighting of a child who looks like Maddy and her parents have already said it’s not her from a photo?? Sorry but I hate to say it – I think she is no longer with us. And with all due respect – how much money have the family made by selling their “story” – writing a book? I would be a complete wreck and the last thing on my mind would be taking time out to publish a book. There are way too many inconsistencies and somebody needs to start with the truth.
July 29th, 2011 at 3:22 am
Furthermore – who leaves little children alone near a swimming pool in the first place; even if she was in the room whats to stop her walking out to find them and ending up in the pool?- absolutely bizarre!
The twins should have been removed from their custody – leaving minors alone in a hotel room constitutes NEGLECT!
July 29th, 2011 at 9:25 am
I have always thought of the disappearance as quite sketchy. Kate washed Madeleine’s toy that she slept with which could surely have helped the investigation. I do hope that the truth will come out soon.
August 14th, 2011 at 11:21 pm
If everyone prayed to God there might be an outcome for this poor family who are enduring such horrific pain – which no-one deserves, no matter what. Just pray people, that this little girl might be found whether she is alive or dead, and that the family may somehow cope and move forward. Their agony needs to come to an end. Dear God help them.
Site Admin: Prayer won’t work because prayer never works. The dead can’t be brought back to life so it’s a complete waste of time. If there was a God then where was God in May 2007 in Praia da Luz, Portugal?
August 24th, 2011 at 1:50 am
Dear Site Admin,
I just happened upon this website and this page. I think you are commenting too much on people’s comments. It sounds like you are arguing with them and trying to promote your own point of view. Your comments are not neutral, they are interogatory, like an angry attorney. Please lay off a bit…people don’t really want all that commentary from the site admin.
Meanwhile, my family and I continue to pray for Maddie and her family. Thank you and God bless.
Site Admin: Feel free to pray all you like – Madeleine is not going to rise from the dead.
October 7th, 2011 at 8:37 am
I think the truth will never be told. The only truth will be found out when that poor, beautiful little girl is either found or when her body is found. God bless her and take care of her.
November 17th, 2011 at 6:46 am
They are Guilty !!!!!!!!!!!! They killed Madeleine
November 20th, 2011 at 6:32 pm
these comments surely make me ashamed to breath the same air.
blair kept saying, education education education these comments the brit pub dare say make me want to emigrate to an earthquke zone.
Site Admin: Feel free to emigrate. Your own spelling and grammar leaves a lot to be desired. Perhaps you need an education.
December 6th, 2011 at 12:43 am
I agree that there is something very fishy about the whole saga. I doubt the Portugese Police are anywhere near as efficient as British Police when investigating such cases, if indeed they have ever investigated any such case before, therefore i believe that the British Police should have led the investigation from the start. By the time they got involved the Portugese Police had blown the investigation and it would have been extremely difficult for the British investigators to have rescued it at that stage. I personally do not believe the McCann’s versions of events, specifically how their missing child’s DND was found in the boot of their hired car. Of course they want bto keep this case alive now that they know they are safe. The income from books and financial suppport from such people as Richard Branson are very welcome indeed, particuarly with super large mortgages on their home! However, unless a miracle occurs i doubt that we will ever get to the bottom of this mystery. One can only speculate until and unless a body is found with perhaps some remaining DNA incriminating a suspect or suspects. We shall see.
December 6th, 2011 at 3:29 pm
The only thing that has worried me.The parents say that after the previous night Maddy asked – Why didn’t you come last night when we were crying? As a parent I wouldn’t have left them again that night.
December 6th, 2011 at 4:31 pm
I have never believed that the Mccanns had nothing to do with their daughter’s death…they should never have left children on their own, its ridiculous and they should have faced a punishment for that! If they had never left her alone then she would still be alive!!
December 6th, 2011 at 5:58 pm
Why would two, supposedly intelligent, doctors find their daughter missing from her bed and then immediately fill the apartment with strangers – thereby totally contaminating the crime scene?
Not only did they leave those children every night, they left them in the nursery on the complex every day as well. They came back, picked them up, fed and bathed them and then went out again leaving them all on their own – so why did they take them on holiday with them in the first place?
The constant suing of people if they say something that the McCanns don’t like always brings this old chestnut to mind, “Methinks thou doth protest too much.”
December 7th, 2011 at 5:49 am
I am a chartered psychotherapist and i have experience to work with patients. In my oppinion ( this is a feeling and it never let me down) that she is not honest and i would not trust her. Authorities need to look closer into this case – bad parenting- abuse- violence. There is something going on ! How can they trust them with teir other children ? They LET THEIR T H R E E little children alone in a foreign country, foreign environtment and they left them in the flat ! ! There is no excuse for this ! They failt as parents and i am sad for the other two children. Is is a shame- even the swimming pool between the bar and the appartement is a danger !!!! they want freedom but no children!
December 7th, 2011 at 9:00 pm
I have followed this case from the start, since maddi disappeared, it is so awful.
Parents shouldn’t leave their children unattened that’s right but if they kept on checking on them, how come maddi is gone?
if they did check on her she would still be here with her loving family and friends.
Nobody knows the truth about this case, kate and gerry could tell us anything they wanted, we woulnd’t know if it’s the truth or a lie.
not knowing where their child is, not knowing if their child is even still alive is the hardest time of their lives, if it wouldn’t be they woulnd’t start a new search after maddi.
I’m an older sister of a 12 year old, she disappeared a lot when she was little, and each time she was gone, I cried, thinking someone took her, thinking that something has happened to her.
I don’t know exactly what the family and friends are going through but I know the pain a little bit.
hopefully with this second search they will finally find maddi, and she will be reunited with her family and friends. xxx
December 8th, 2011 at 5:32 pm
Dear Site Admin
with the comment you made on kristin’s comment “Feel free to pray all you like – Madeleine is not going to rise from the dead.” how do you know she’s dead? she might be still alive. Dont say Madeleine is not going to rise form the dead if you dont know for sure that she is dead.
December 15th, 2011 at 3:38 am
1.Why would you immediately think and say -’they have taken her’- if you were in a place you think is so soo safe to leave all your children alone and in an ‘unlocked’ apartment that they could get out of?
2.You would know not to wash their personal toy as it may help give evidence!
3.Why would you leave children on their own and not show the slightest remorse about having done so?